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boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political fallout. a lot of people are saying -- let's blame the democrats or the republicans. right now, it seems the democrats are winning the messaging game here. but who will be to blame if we go over the cliff? >> correct me if i am wrong -- especially you -- but it seems like the conventional wisdom, when wh all is said and done, obama will come out looking nice. but right now, what he doesn't care about is a popularity boost in the polls. what ul
boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >>...
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i think speaker boehner did well through this. i'm a fan of this and i think he will be re-elected as speak. they are taking out frustrations on him when he manages a difficult process. >> bret: kirsten? >> it's not pro or anti-boehner situation as much as why was it get to this point? why couldn't they have -- why so much pork in it. why so much spending that is meant to go and relieve the problem. >> who controls this -- >> it started in the senate. >> you be i'm saying this is the disflux of washington -- dysfunction of washington. they didn't know this was coming out of the senate? can people talk to each other? >> corruption of the word. idea of emergency. this will happen quickly and because earmarks are harder to get. no one knows that passes in midnight. they have done the right thing to hold it up. >> next up, fiscal cliff deal, bill, soon to be law. and the debt ceiling fight to come. look what mommy is having. mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetab
i think speaker boehner did well through this. i'm a fan of this and i think he will be re-elected as speak. they are taking out frustrations on him when he manages a difficult process. >> bret: kirsten? >> it's not pro or anti-boehner situation as much as why was it get to this point? why couldn't they have -- why so much pork in it. why so much spending that is meant to go and relieve the problem. >> who controls this -- >> it started in the senate. >> you be i'm...
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boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political fallout. a lot of people are saying -- let's blame the democrats or the republicans. right now, it seems the democrats are winning the messaging game here. but who will be to blame if we go over the cliff? >> correct me if i am wrong -- especially you -- but it seems like the conventional wisdom, when wh all is said and done, obama will come out looking nice. but right now, what he doesn't care about is a popularity boost in the polls. what ul
boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >>...
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>>neil: speaker boehner lives for another day, the battled speaker boehner, still the speak we of the house because there were no good alternates in the house. why didn't they look outside the house? they could have. there is no law that says the speaker of the house has to come from the house of representatives or even be a congressman. house members can choose anyone they want. it is true. but they have always wanted one of their own. are we ever surprised whether it is speaker boehner office before him speaker pelosi that we get more of the same? same arguing? it would not be the same old going with speaker weaver. >> just call it even, okay. >> i would say we take off and nuke the entire site. >>neil: you cannot leave out clint. >> want to make my day. okay. >>neil: he would be different. if he gets off a chair and get as laugh, speaker, feeling lucky, he can talk to a president and get a deal. more apollo 13 commander, who better to fix washington problems than a guy who tackled the ultimate problem. >> houston, we have a problem. >> he gets my vote. >> or maybe rather than the s
>>neil: speaker boehner lives for another day, the battled speaker boehner, still the speak we of the house because there were no good alternates in the house. why didn't they look outside the house? they could have. there is no law that says the speaker of the house has to come from the house of representatives or even be a congressman. house members can choose anyone they want. it is true. but they have always wanted one of their own. are we ever surprised whether it is speaker boehner...
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>> he took a shot at john boehner on meet the press. presidential leadership trying to get the deal done doesn't take the political shots even when they are easy because you are trying to get the deal done. the big deals don't happen without presidential leadership. this is good politics but it's not good policy. it may be good politics makes bad policy. >> isn't the problem ultimately spending? the busheir raw tax cuts. some say it is going to come. covered it about a week with the budget we have. isn't the problem spending. aren't they identifying what we need to cut, dowling. >> i think it's both. i think it's revenue and spending. rep republicans are low to raise revenue and republicans slow to cut programs. i think the issue is a balanced approach like simpson where you raise ed one-quarter of the revenue you reform medicare and medicaid and you take on the military. if you do that in a balanced way but neither side is talking that way and it leaves us the american people at risk. >> at least the house is doing something. the senat
>> he took a shot at john boehner on meet the press. presidential leadership trying to get the deal done doesn't take the political shots even when they are easy because you are trying to get the deal done. the big deals don't happen without presidential leadership. this is good politics but it's not good policy. it may be good politics makes bad policy. >> isn't the problem ultimately spending? the busheir raw tax cuts. some say it is going to come. covered it about a week with the...
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conciliatory. >> andrea: boehner did -- boehner has taken heat. in his defense he has taken a ton of flak on this. he has given a terrible hand of cards. but he came to the table. he tried to at least bring something to the floor. mitch mcconnell knows he can't pass anything, any tax cut for everyone under $1 million. kimberly, that wouldn't even pass the senate. >> juan: allow me to introduce a little sanity to this forum. >> andrea: yes, juan. >> juan: say it's incredit to believe me he would say they're far apart. they're not far apart. boehner wants $1 trillion to new revenue. closing loopholes or deduction or whatever. obama is $1.2 trillion. that is not far apart. in terms of cut, boehner said one for one. $1 trillion in terms of the spending cuts. obama is 1.3 more on boehner -- let me finish. obama has stimulus spending built in. they are not far apart. [ overtalk ] >> eric: boehner can get $1 million and below -- just dance is because -- listen, you can't blame that on democrats. republicans would not come in -- >> andrea: how dare they d
conciliatory. >> andrea: boehner did -- boehner has taken heat. in his defense he has taken a ton of flak on this. he has given a terrible hand of cards. but he came to the table. he tried to at least bring something to the floor. mitch mcconnell knows he can't pass anything, any tax cut for everyone under $1 million. kimberly, that wouldn't even pass the senate. >> juan: allow me to introduce a little sanity to this forum. >> andrea: yes, juan. >> juan: say it's...
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>>reporter: it depends on what speaker boehner himself supports. if boehner comes to the conference and says i think this is a bad deal, they will vote against it. and he probably will not bring it to the floor. if the not puts out a deal with mcconnell's pleasing that speaker boehner sees as too reasonable to town -- turn down and he says to the members do you not have to vote but i will, he will get a good majority of his leadership team which is more than 120 people, with committee assignments not finalized until after the vote for speaker and he will get enough support if he supports the bill. what he has been saying if it is not something that can be supported by enough republicans he will not bring it to the floor. >>trace: thank you, a.b., happy new year, a.b. >> we expect more details of the fiscal cliff negotiations throughout the day and well keep you posted if we get anymore word from the white house or capitol hill during "studio b" and of course we will have complete coverage as the story develops through the evening right here on fox
>>reporter: it depends on what speaker boehner himself supports. if boehner comes to the conference and says i think this is a bad deal, they will vote against it. and he probably will not bring it to the floor. if the not puts out a deal with mcconnell's pleasing that speaker boehner sees as too reasonable to town -- turn down and he says to the members do you not have to vote but i will, he will get a good majority of his leadership team which is more than 120 people, with committee...
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john boehner cancelled that vote. darrell issa said the speaker had no choice because of what new york lawmakers did. >> your two senators packed this with pork, had the opportunity to have a 27 to 30 billion-dollar legitimate relief package, packed it with pork and then dared us not to vote on it. >> republicans including new jersey governor chris christie and new york com peter king denied that pork accusation. but the debate is pretty much mood now. because since a new congress begins tomorrow. members will have to write a new bill from scratch delaying aid to all those still struggling to recover. this morning lawmakers from new york and new jersey blasted leaders for allowing that to happen. >> it is the most disgraceful action i have seen in this house in the 20 years i have been here. >> this is not about people in congress. this is about constituents whose lives were ruined. we need to do the right thing and we need to do it now. >> this afternoon, members of the new york and new jersey congressional delegates
john boehner cancelled that vote. darrell issa said the speaker had no choice because of what new york lawmakers did. >> your two senators packed this with pork, had the opportunity to have a 27 to 30 billion-dollar legitimate relief package, packed it with pork and then dared us not to vote on it. >> republicans including new jersey governor chris christie and new york com peter king denied that pork accusation. but the debate is pretty much mood now. because since a new congress...
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boehner gave a piece of paper that hardly said anything on it. rubio tweeted out that the president was open to social security cuts. but the republicans weren't. so i'm a little confused about what cuts the republicans want so much they're not getting. >> i was eager to hear kirsten stake on it because i thought that press conference was baffling. very strange thing. it's put me in the other worldly and uncomfortable position of thinking that joe biden is the grownup in the white house. you got a sense from obama he is the sab tier in his own -- saboteur in his own white house. when he said how the republicans have agreed to raising taxes, that was in effect rhetorical poison pill to house republicans. the house republicans want to do is tomorrow when the taxes go all up, that the bush tax cut expire they say that they are voting to cut taxes. they are spinning this to raise taxes. i don't think the republicans should allow themselves to be baited by obama. >> bret: the or thing is talk about the sequester. you will remember of course in debate,
boehner gave a piece of paper that hardly said anything on it. rubio tweeted out that the president was open to social security cuts. but the republicans weren't. so i'm a little confused about what cuts the republicans want so much they're not getting. >> i was eager to hear kirsten stake on it because i thought that press conference was baffling. very strange thing. it's put me in the other worldly and uncomfortable position of thinking that joe biden is the grownup in the white house....
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it was speaker john boehner who walked away from a 4 trillion-dollar deal. indeed boehner may have a trouble selling a final deal to republicans after he revealed tax hikes had to be cull peld with spending cuts. >> washington has a spending problem that can't be fixed with tax increases alone. >> the other major hurdle is shutting off the sequester especially after this vow in the final presidential debate. >> it will not happen. >> today republicans accused the president of moving the goal post by suggesting more tax increases are needed to stop the massive cuts aimed at the pentagon and elsewhere. >> revenues have to be part of the equation in turning off the sequester. >> there is some real anger brewing tonight on the left about proposed deal. even rich trumka the evidence the afl-cio head of organized labor it's not a good fiscal cliff deal if it gives more tax cuts to the 2% and sets the stage for more hostage taking. he is referring to the debt ceiling debate that's coming early next year. goes on to tweet republican's fiscal cliff double think fisca
it was speaker john boehner who walked away from a 4 trillion-dollar deal. indeed boehner may have a trouble selling a final deal to republicans after he revealed tax hikes had to be cull peld with spending cuts. >> washington has a spending problem that can't be fixed with tax increases alone. >> the other major hurdle is shutting off the sequester especially after this vow in the final presidential debate. >> it will not happen. >> today republicans accused the...
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>>bret: speaker boehner, with only republicans, the plan "b" vote, that is what that was. this is different. it who is democrats, as well. the question is, will the speaker fiscal year he gets to the point where a majority of his majority does not support the legislation that comes over from the senate, assuming it is through the senate, now, if it comes over to the house of representatives and conservatives in house caucus, a majoriy of them, do not support it, does he, then, still bring it to the floor and pass it with a majority of democratic votes? that is something that he has not beening to do and he talked about that last year, and it is the hastert rule, the majority of the majority, something that speaker said he would stick to. >> a final question, could the house of representatives, or would the house is decided to vote if there were no spending cuts on the table if the sequestration was involved? >>bret: that is the biggest sticking point. i do. now the republicans are saying they want to have that fight on the other side. they want to have that fight with the
>>bret: speaker boehner, with only republicans, the plan "b" vote, that is what that was. this is different. it who is democrats, as well. the question is, will the speaker fiscal year he gets to the point where a majority of his majority does not support the legislation that comes over from the senate, assuming it is through the senate, now, if it comes over to the house of representatives and conservatives in house caucus, a majoriy of them, do not support it, does he, then,...
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it's named after former house speaker john boehner. if he can't get everybody on his side on board, that might be the only option that house speaker john boehner has. and the reason is because we're right up against the deadline. i mean, this congress ends at noon on thursday. you can't take a bill that has started of in the old congress over into the new congress. it works that way just constitutionally. it's automatic. they are limited in terms it of time, the sands are dripping through the hourglass here. we are down to the very last few of began all-s. before they go down to the. >> though expect the house rules committee to meet later tonight. that's a good sign they are trying to move a bill. whether they move plan number one amending the senate bill or number two whether they just take what the senate sent them. the rules committee sets the parameters for the baited. usually you have to write a rule one day ahead of time to determine how you are going to handle it on the floor. that's a good sign that something is forging ahead.
it's named after former house speaker john boehner. if he can't get everybody on his side on board, that might be the only option that house speaker john boehner has. and the reason is because we're right up against the deadline. i mean, this congress ends at noon on thursday. you can't take a bill that has started of in the old congress over into the new congress. it works that way just constitutionally. it's automatic. they are limited in terms it of time, the sands are dripping through the...
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boehner said let's see what the senate can do. we saw senator reid and mitch mcconnell try to get a deal, that failed. now mcconnell and biden who have a very good relationship. they worked on extending the tax breaks in 2010 they are trying it. the clock is ticking. the public is going to have to read this bill and members will demand that they read this bill before they vote on it and that's why we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> great to have you here today. i know the clock is ticking. i know you're watching it closely. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. gregg. jon: a new report on the terror attack on our consulate in libya. who they are blaming for the deaths of four americans including our ambassador. a french court says goodbye to that country's controversial 75% tax rate on the wealthy. don't you wish you were living in france? what that means for the socialist government of that country as it vows to continue squeezing the rich. new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as plosec
boehner said let's see what the senate can do. we saw senator reid and mitch mcconnell try to get a deal, that failed. now mcconnell and biden who have a very good relationship. they worked on extending the tax breaks in 2010 they are trying it. the clock is ticking. the public is going to have to read this bill and members will demand that they read this bill before they vote on it and that's why we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> great to have you here today. i know the clock is...
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speaker john boehner will be the first to face a major test. we're watching that as we get rolling here. good morning, welcome to "america's newsroom." i'm bill hemmer, here in the new year. >> i'm heather chilled ders. where is martha? bill: she will be here next week. >> i'm filling in for martha. that comes for a rocky start from the speak. bill: do l delayed vote for victims of soup storm sandy punted to the next congress. that affected lawmakers in the affected area. >> to leave new york, new jersey, thousand of people in this area this holiday season on their own and abandoned was wrung and disgraceful in a lot of ways. to say to a region hirt by a natural disaster and now you have to rebuild yourself and you have to fund the reconstruction, actually adds insult to injury. bill: the critic say, the bill, they're sympathetic to the victims but the aid needs to be paid for. there is other criticism. mike emanuel live on the hill. good morning to you. first on john boehner's leadership. is the in question as a speaker or not? >> reporter: bi
speaker john boehner will be the first to face a major test. we're watching that as we get rolling here. good morning, welcome to "america's newsroom." i'm bill hemmer, here in the new year. >> i'm heather chilled ders. where is martha? bill: she will be here next week. >> i'm filling in for martha. that comes for a rocky start from the speak. bill: do l delayed vote for victims of soup storm sandy punted to the next congress. that affected lawmakers in the affected area....
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. >> reporter: sources say house speaker john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him house leaders were consider, accept or amend their plan, what's not expected to be included is increasing the debt limit, something that democrats wanted and republicans have resisted. if senate leaders cannot strike a deal, the president wants congress to vote on what would be plan c. it would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. extending unemployment benefits and delay dramatic spending cuts until late next year. top senate republicans sound hopeful a deal can be reached. >> we are engaged in discussions, majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> among the issues to be hammered out shall the threshold for extending the push tax cuts and president obama campaigned and sounds like, 400,000 may be where they're heading. a leader says that permanency is key, and fixing the deat
. >> reporter: sources say house speaker john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told him house leaders were consider, accept or amend their plan, what's not expected to be included is increasing the debt limit, something that democrats wanted and republicans have resisted. if senate leaders cannot strike a deal, the president wants congress to vote on what would be plan c. it would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. extending unemployment...
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harry reid called boehner a dictator. i find it strange because they don't call actual dick tears dictators. they never call chavez or castro a dictator but they will call boehner a dictator. are they going to start acting like adults soon. >> the house has done their job. it's ironic to me that harry reid goes after john boehner. the house of representatives did this months ago which is when it should have been done. extended the rates. replaced the across the board cuts with responsible reductions in spending. and, yet, here the senate is pointing the finger at the house of representatives. the speaker is right to say it's up to the senate. and this is where it's going to have to happen. >> all right, senator. thanks at lot. next on the run down do both parties actually want to go over the fiscal cliff to save political face? we'll debate it the state department officials out of their jobs after the benghazi terrorist attack are reportedly still on the payroll. we have details moments away. >> greg: continuing with top
harry reid called boehner a dictator. i find it strange because they don't call actual dick tears dictators. they never call chavez or castro a dictator but they will call boehner a dictator. are they going to start acting like adults soon. >> the house has done their job. it's ironic to me that harry reid goes after john boehner. the house of representatives did this months ago which is when it should have been done. extended the rates. replaced the across the board cuts with responsible...
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boehner has never embraced that majority of the majority. he says, listen, i'll bring a bill to the floor. he's never said it has to have the majority of the majority. i think if boehner backs this bill, i think it possibly will get the majority of the majority. it'll be close. there's been a lot of defections on a lot of the fiscal bills from republicans, but boehner usually gets the majority of the majority. he's always had the majority of the majority. this is going to be a test, because if he does get that so-called majority, it's going to weaken him. i think he probably at some point will say, listen, i tried to pass plan b, you guys wouldn't pass it. we've got to take this or else, and we heard senator lindsey graham say earlier if you don't pass this, you're going to get a worse deal down the road. i think boehner's going to embrace it and say let's vote on it. rick: another long-held republican principle of not voting for tax hikes period might also go up in flames today. >> no, that's true. you hear some republicans say it's past ja
boehner has never embraced that majority of the majority. he says, listen, i'll bring a bill to the floor. he's never said it has to have the majority of the majority. i think if boehner backs this bill, i think it possibly will get the majority of the majority. it'll be close. there's been a lot of defections on a lot of the fiscal bills from republicans, but boehner usually gets the majority of the majority. he's always had the majority of the majority. this is going to be a test, because if...
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speaker boehner is in his home state of ohio today. the house gop leadershipship put out a statement yesterday saying the house has passed legislation extending existing tax cuts and putting -- delaying putting off some spending cuts and replacing them with other spending cuts, and they're urging the senate to do the same. jon? jon: molly henneberg there at the white house where we are getting down to the wire. thank you. for more on the efforts to keep the economy from heading over the cliff and the likelihood of reaching some kind of a deal in time, let's talk with susan -- [inaudible] chief congressional correspondent for the washington examiner. what are the chances here, susan? >> hi, jon. i think at this point we're just simply running out of time. we have only got a few days left. they're so far apart on what an agreement would look like. even if they weren't going to put together a comprehensive deal which everybody agrees there's simply not enough time for. if they were trying to get something together that would stop the tax
speaker boehner is in his home state of ohio today. the house gop leadershipship put out a statement yesterday saying the house has passed legislation extending existing tax cuts and putting -- delaying putting off some spending cuts and replacing them with other spending cuts, and they're urging the senate to do the same. jon? jon: molly henneberg there at the white house where we are getting down to the wire. thank you. for more on the efforts to keep the economy from heading over the cliff...
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i think boehner has been more flexible. he just doesn't have control over his party. he has members in the congress who are willing to hold our economy hostage. they know that if we go over this cliff, we're going to go back into a recession. that last thing that our economy needs. so if they had taken the balanced field the president put on the talk where he would have been the first president to cut social security. it would have shored up confidence with businesses with the middle-class. it would have allowed us to start down doing meaning deficit reduction and it would have made sure the middle-class would not have a tax hike. >> the president has indicated a willingness to have that conversation but they said that was off the table. which is why it's not going to be final negotiation. the other point is, even with the new revenue the republicans have agreed to, this is how assinine this idea is, the president is not willing to commit the revenue to pin down the deficit. isn't the whole negotiation is by-product the debt talks from a year ago? isn't it supposed to
i think boehner has been more flexible. he just doesn't have control over his party. he has members in the congress who are willing to hold our economy hostage. they know that if we go over this cliff, we're going to go back into a recession. that last thing that our economy needs. so if they had taken the balanced field the president put on the talk where he would have been the first president to cut social security. it would have shored up confidence with businesses with the middle-class. it...
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harry reid said back to boehner. what are you talking about. boehner repeated verbatim, go f yourself. this is indication of the poison atmosphere up here. when the sequestration runs out next few months and congress must vote to increase the debt ceiling. it appears speaker boehner is fwirding for a fight on both fronts in a statement that he issued last night. he said in part, quote, now the focus turns to spending. the american people reelected a republican majority in the house and we will use it in 2013 to hold the president accountable for the quote, balanced approach he promised. meaning significant spending cuts and reforms to entitlement programs that are driving our country deeper and deeper into debt. the president last night indicate he is open to come promy to spending cuts but drew a line when it comes to the debt ceiling. here's the president. >> now, one last point i want to make. while i will negotiate over many things, i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills that they hav
harry reid said back to boehner. what are you talking about. boehner repeated verbatim, go f yourself. this is indication of the poison atmosphere up here. when the sequestration runs out next few months and congress must vote to increase the debt ceiling. it appears speaker boehner is fwirding for a fight on both fronts in a statement that he issued last night. he said in part, quote, now the focus turns to spending. the american people reelected a republican majority in the house and we will...
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and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob beckel. are you done? >> i had a great question, but age before beauty. >> a lot of age and no beauty. >> what? >> ed, truth be known, and we see this fiscal cliff and the calamity of the day on january 1st, tonight is true the white house dot much care if they get it on the first or the fifth? >> reporter: you're right, with withholding, some people will not feel the effects of a tax increase the first couple of days, you might have time to finagle that, the treasury department has that authority. the fact of the matter, what they're more nervous about in the white house and republicans on the hill ar
and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob...
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then if boehner were to allow a free open vote, then you could get 180 democrats plus 30 republicans. it could happen. >> doug: voila. >> that is the only scenario. possible one. >> doug: sounds so easy. >> yeah. a lot of this stuff is in principle easy. remember, obama was never interested in solving the fiscal issues. he wanted to break the republicans. he did. there is no civil war on the republican side that makes him sovereign in washington. a great political achievement. the other event is the debt ceiling. happening on january 1. the delicious irony, he could go over the cliff. the debt ceiling is easier to stall, because he needs torrent of income for government. decrease in spending. as a result, the debt croling is postponed. so it's got its little cheerrished curlieques in here. iron this through. enjoy. helps the country one bit. >> on the subject of the debt ceiling, if you add urgency to the component of washington there. geithner sent a letter to all the leader ins the house and senate saying, "obama and the democrats seek increase in debt ceiling as part of any agreeme
then if boehner were to allow a free open vote, then you could get 180 democrats plus 30 republicans. it could happen. >> doug: voila. >> that is the only scenario. possible one. >> doug: sounds so easy. >> yeah. a lot of this stuff is in principle easy. remember, obama was never interested in solving the fiscal issues. he wanted to break the republicans. he did. there is no civil war on the republican side that makes him sovereign in washington. a great political...
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that's the problem for speaker boehner. and whether he allows the vote, knowing majority of his members probably won't go along with it, that's the first hurdle to get over, and, two, if he has the votes, i should back up here. there are democrats who have problems with this as well. you had senators on the democratic side, senators franken and harken and sanders going to senator reid's office apparently this afternoon and have a problem with raising the limit from $250,000 to $400,000, on the tax cut exemptions. we have a long way to go. it's hard to believe we are 1:36. so 12:00 midnight is approaching fast and there is a lot of road to go before anything develops. arthel: it's unbelievable. the american public is fed up with it. what are you hearing in terms of having vice president biden negotiate with mitch mcconnell. they have relationships with many of the people in the senate and perhaps do you think they could get together? it seems like their talks have helped in some regard. do you think they will take it back to
that's the problem for speaker boehner. and whether he allows the vote, knowing majority of his members probably won't go along with it, that's the first hurdle to get over, and, two, if he has the votes, i should back up here. there are democrats who have problems with this as well. you had senators on the democratic side, senators franken and harken and sanders going to senator reid's office apparently this afternoon and have a problem with raising the limit from $250,000 to $400,000, on the...
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there's only one person who is negotiating on behalf of the house and that's john boehner. and frequently he's negotiating by himself. i'll say this, it's good for us to go home to the people we work for so we can get an earful, as i have gotten over the last three or four days, whether it's the grocery store or church or wal-mart or this morning while i was running someone stopped me and gave me an earful, which i very much need. so if you are going on vacation, then, no, it's not a good thing to leave d.c. if you are going home and getting an earful from the people you are supposed to represent and work for, then i would say it's better spent coming home to district than it is staying up there and naming post offices. >> you are right about that. congressman trey. it's always a pleasure to speak with you. thank you. >> yes, ma'am, you too. >> and tonight the gun control battle is exploding. a suburban new york paper publishing the names and addresses of gun owners. who who does the interactive map really put in danger? steven joins us now. hi. great to have you tonight. >
there's only one person who is negotiating on behalf of the house and that's john boehner. and frequently he's negotiating by himself. i'll say this, it's good for us to go home to the people we work for so we can get an earful, as i have gotten over the last three or four days, whether it's the grocery store or church or wal-mart or this morning while i was running someone stopped me and gave me an earful, which i very much need. so if you are going on vacation, then, no, it's not a good thing...
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speaker boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid. earlier today, the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with the republicans in congress. >> nothing can move forward unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are willing to come up with a bipartisan plan to participate. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. we have not heard a word since neither mcconnell. nothing has happened. >> i should note that senator reid was due for a news conference later this afternoon. that has since been canceled. perhaps the senate majority leader has decided to do his talking behind closed doors and hammer out a deal. greg: filled with metaphors, no doubt. what a republican saying about the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations? reporter: they have been pretty quiet so far. we know the speaker of the house and the republican leadership team in the house is due for a conference call with members that are still back in their home districts later this hour. we expect senate republican leader mitch mcconnell to be on the senate floor. the top
speaker boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid. earlier today, the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with the republicans in congress. >> nothing can move forward unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are willing to come up with a bipartisan plan to participate. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. we have not heard a word since neither mcconnell. nothing has happened. >> i should note that senator reid was due for a news conference later this...
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boehner and the president off the election and mr. boehner put 800 billion of revenues on the table and talking about negotiations and the president says i get that for free, i'm not giving you anything for 800 billion dollars. and washington is a rumor mill, as you can probably mante imagine, and we've heard that the change cpi would be off the table, an indication of a smaller deal, not a larger deal, and it's hard to imagine a larger deal without including those. and things are moving quickly despite the fact it seems fairly quiet on capitol hill. >> harris: we're edging later and later on this sunday night and talk about things that have been said that can shift the temperature of where you are. senator reid has said he cannot offer a counter offer because he says, quote, we're too far apart on some pretty big issues. what's he talking about? >> i don't know, the first i've heard. when people tells they don't want a counter offer, it tells they don't want to deal. it strikes me it would not be difficult to focus just on the tax ra
boehner and the president off the election and mr. boehner put 800 billion of revenues on the table and talking about negotiations and the president says i get that for free, i'm not giving you anything for 800 billion dollars. and washington is a rumor mill, as you can probably mante imagine, and we've heard that the change cpi would be off the table, an indication of a smaller deal, not a larger deal, and it's hard to imagine a larger deal without including those. and things are moving...
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>> first of all, boehner and mr. obama were not the right two to be negotiating because the scorpio and the lion exactly 90 degrees apart is a square. >> they shouldn't get married? >> i think it was good they brought in some other players. >> not a political marriage? >> because they communicate better, different people. i think that was good. mrs. clinton, a scorpio is at a low ebb with their help. i have been writing that. we're all going to say prayers for her. she's w hard. she can come through it and she's in the best hand. >> let's do genericically relationships. >> we've all been texting too much. now neptune moved into pisces and we're going to want to see each other more. touchy feely. last time neptune was in pisces was 169 years ago. >> we're all going to be mushy and public displays of affection? >> we won't go extreme but it sounds like you don't like that because you're a libra. but seeing each other more is a good thing. >> texting does tend to -- i like it better than talking. >> texting is good but
>> first of all, boehner and mr. obama were not the right two to be negotiating because the scorpio and the lion exactly 90 degrees apart is a square. >> they shouldn't get married? >> i think it was good they brought in some other players. >> not a political marriage? >> because they communicate better, different people. i think that was good. mrs. clinton, a scorpio is at a low ebb with their help. i have been writing that. we're all going to say prayers for her....
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was defering speaker boehner to give the republican side. after hearing senator reid yesterday, senator mcconnell fired back. take a listen. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here and i said, this is a conversation we should had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: now senator mcconnell also said he was disappointed because when he got a call from the president two nights ago right before the president left hawaii to come back here to the white house, senator mcconnell says that was the first time he heard from any democrat, president, senator reid, nancy pelosi, anybody in about a month in terms of talking about the fiscal cliff. so everyone has sort of delayed really facing all of th up against the deadline now, jon. jon: that seems clear. ed henry at the white house there. ed, thank you. stay on it for us. for more on this let's bring in the editor of "campaigns & elections" magazine, shane de
was defering speaker boehner to give the republican side. after hearing senator reid yesterday, senator mcconnell fired back. take a listen. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here and i said, this is a conversation we should had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: now senator mcconnell also said he was disappointed because when he got a...
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he and boehner went back and forth. let's listen. >> if we come up with something that's not that easy we're dealing with big numbers and some of the stuff that we do is somewhat complicated but i think it was a positive meeting there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would have took an extended period of time as you all know waiting for us. but everybody, this is -- whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. but that's where we're. and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. we're going to do the best we can for the caucuses that we have and the country waiting for us to make a decision. >> juliet: charles krauthammer made a great point the other day. ultimately the way the president is going to be judged isn't going to be what happens in the next couple of days. it's not going to be on popul
he and boehner went back and forth. let's listen. >> if we come up with something that's not that easy we're dealing with big numbers and some of the stuff that we do is somewhat complicated but i think it was a positive meeting there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would have took an extended period of time as you all know waiting for us. but everybody, this is -- whatever we come up with is going to be...
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president obama and speaker boehner are sharpening their knives. fair and balanced debate moments away with tucker carlson and alan colmes. arthel: looking forward to it. my new hearing aids instantly changed my life - i feel so much younger. my husband has his confidence back. and he can enjoy the laughter of our grandkids again. i can have fun with my friends again. feeling isolated? ready to reconnect? the aarp hearing care program provided by hearusa can help. call hearusa at ... for a free hearing check-up. plus, receive a free $50 dining card when you get your free hearing check up. aarp members receive a 20% discount on breakthrough hearing aids. call now, and you'll even get a free 3-year supply of hearing aid batteries with your hearing aid purchase- a $100 value. the aarp hearing care program provided by hearusa comes with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. call hearusa at ... and start loving life again, today. arthel: good to see you on this tuesday morning, wednesday morning. the new york newspaper that published names and addresses of peo
president obama and speaker boehner are sharpening their knives. fair and balanced debate moments away with tucker carlson and alan colmes. arthel: looking forward to it. my new hearing aids instantly changed my life - i feel so much younger. my husband has his confidence back. and he can enjoy the laughter of our grandkids again. i can have fun with my friends again. feeling isolated? ready to reconnect? the aarp hearing care program provided by hearusa can help. call hearusa at ... for a free...
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back to you guys. >> juliet: listening to them, what senator reid says about boehner and boehner's response. they sound like they're real housewives of dc or something. >> eric: they're nowhere near a deal. i think i have this figured out. president obama came back from hits vacation saying let's see if we can get something together, knowing very well that they can't. the house and senate are so far apart, neither one will even entertain the idea -- >> juliet: so why have a meeting? >> eric: you look like you're trying o do the right thing. these bush tax cuts will expire december 31, 72 hours from now, whatever the number is. if president obama comes back in january sometime and says, you know what, house republican members, i have an idea. let's lower taxes 'cause they went back up. let's lower taxes back to where they were last year for the people making under $250,000 a year and let's call them the obama tax cuts. it looks like he's the tax cutter and if you're a republican in the house, you go, wait a minute, i'm supposed to be for lower taxes. how can i vote no for lowering taxes on a
back to you guys. >> juliet: listening to them, what senator reid says about boehner and boehner's response. they sound like they're real housewives of dc or something. >> eric: they're nowhere near a deal. i think i have this figured out. president obama came back from hits vacation saying let's see if we can get something together, knowing very well that they can't. the house and senate are so far apart, neither one will even entertain the idea -- >> juliet: so why have a...
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>> no, but if mcconnell can't get 60% of us to vote for this deal it will be hard for boehner to get it through the house. i will want to vote for it even though i won't like it because the country has a lot at stake here. >> chris: is senator graham right? will we get a deal? >> i think he is partially right. yesterday 2.1 million americans lost extended unemployment insurance and from this point on it is lose, lose. my big worry is a contraction of the economy, the loss of jobs which could be well over two million in addition to the people already on unemployment. i think contraction of the economy really would be just terrible for this nation. i think we need a deal. we should do a deal. if lindsey and i could sit down, i think we could put that deal together. i think the leadership s now working. it will probably be an immediate deal. in other words, it is not going to solve all of the problems forever but it is going to solve certain problems. in other words, not only the unemployment insurance but doctors lose 30% on medicare patients if that isn't remedied. it is called the do
>> no, but if mcconnell can't get 60% of us to vote for this deal it will be hard for boehner to get it through the house. i will want to vote for it even though i won't like it because the country has a lot at stake here. >> chris: is senator graham right? will we get a deal? >> i think he is partially right. yesterday 2.1 million americans lost extended unemployment insurance and from this point on it is lose, lose. my big worry is a contraction of the economy, the loss of...
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we just got word on the other end of the avenue, john boehner has arrived at the capitol. so who will really be there to blame on january 1 if those potentially devastating tax hikes and spending cuts actually go into effect? do you really want to look at your paycheck on that first week or two? heather: yeah. no. gregg: no. anybody want to look at their paycheck? no. heather: i will take a look at yours. gregg: no. heather: okay. they rushed into a nuclear disaster to do whatever they could to help but now a group of u.s. sailors is suing over japan's fukushima nuclear plant meltdown. they claim officials lied through their teeth about the dangers. do they have a case? we will debate it. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose
we just got word on the other end of the avenue, john boehner has arrived at the capitol. so who will really be there to blame on january 1 if those potentially devastating tax hikes and spending cuts actually go into effect? do you really want to look at your paycheck on that first week or two? heather: yeah. no. gregg: no. anybody want to look at their paycheck? no. heather: i will take a look at yours. gregg: no. heather: okay. they rushed into a nuclear disaster to do whatever they could to...
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since cantor had taken a lead role here some have speculated that boehner wasn't as friendly to it as he might have otherwise been. >> reporter: cantor's office tells me that the two are in communication and that cantor support the speaker boehner. the two are scheduled to meet with the new york and new jersey delegations to discuss sandy aid in less than an hour, megyn. >> megyn: shannon, thank you. >> we're going to hit every single recommendation that's been put forward. some individuals have been held accountable inside of the state department and what i've said is that we are going to fix this to make sure that this does not happen again. because these are folks that i send into the field. we understand that there are dangers involved, but you know, when he read the report and it confirms that we had already seen based on some of our internal reviews, there was just some sloppiness. >> megyn: well, that was president obama talking about accountability for the terror attack in benghazi, libya that killed four americans on 9/11 of 2012. he made those remarks after a report came out
since cantor had taken a lead role here some have speculated that boehner wasn't as friendly to it as he might have otherwise been. >> reporter: cantor's office tells me that the two are in communication and that cantor support the speaker boehner. the two are scheduled to meet with the new york and new jersey delegations to discuss sandy aid in less than an hour, megyn. >> megyn: shannon, thank you. >> we're going to hit every single recommendation that's been put forward....
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it's all john boehner's fault. there is something to that i suppose. >> i think there is some recrimination that could go around but the president is leader. he hasn't led on this in four years. having this last minute type of thing where he comes out and acting tough when he was just away for week in hawaii. everyone deserves a nice christmas holiday but not when we have serious issues that need to be addressed. i don't think the president has led on this. the american people are also partly to blame here. there was an election and he left in place everything the same. the house is the same. senate is basically the same. you voted for basically more of the same. american people don't escape blame either. >> gregg: van hollen basically has the same argument, he has been out for 12 days and vanhollen, boehner would not touk talk to him. i'm not sure i buy that. if it does go to the fiscal cliff and we go over it, sequestration would cut only $109 billion next year. that is actually not a lot in a budget of almost fo
it's all john boehner's fault. there is something to that i suppose. >> i think there is some recrimination that could go around but the president is leader. he hasn't led on this in four years. having this last minute type of thing where he comes out and acting tough when he was just away for week in hawaii. everyone deserves a nice christmas holiday but not when we have serious issues that need to be addressed. i don't think the president has led on this. the american people are also...
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president barack obama, speaker of the house john boehner, house minority leader nancy pelosi, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop, but it's not going to be a good drop. >> but we have no takers. >> every republican, every democrat ought to be here. >> the phone never raining. >> they should negotiate a plan. they shouldn't have the mine are in plan, they should have the biglan. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> the republicans are sitting there with a nuclear weapon. they have the debt ceiling coming up. they can use that as part of this negotiation. >> what is going on here? >> the president called me and probably called others last night. my impression is he would like to see if we can move forward. >> you can't legislate with yours
president barack obama, speaker of the house john boehner, house minority leader nancy pelosi, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop, but it's not going to be a good drop....
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speaker boehner's position, we already passed one measure. it is now up to the u.s. senate. here's congressman ted poe just moments ago. take a listen to this. >> mr. speaker, the american people, they actually do get it, at least those people that work and pay taxes, the backbone of america, the workers of america. they say, stop the spending obsession. mr. speaker, the problem is spending. we got here by spending too much, not by taxing too little. we're going off the cliff of our pocket's full of somebody else's money and that is just the way it is. gregg: we'll continue to monitor the remarks on the floor of the house of representatives and we're keeping an eye on what is going on over on the other side of the u.s. senate. not much activity. they're supposed to remeet or convene. it is a little difficult to know which at 11:00 a.m. this morning. so we'll keep you posted on that. heather: meantime a holiday horror story. nine people are killed in a tour bus accident. this happened in oregon. the bus, carrying about 40 people, lost control on an icy road yesterday. first-r
speaker boehner's position, we already passed one measure. it is now up to the u.s. senate. here's congressman ted poe just moments ago. take a listen to this. >> mr. speaker, the american people, they actually do get it, at least those people that work and pay taxes, the backbone of america, the workers of america. they say, stop the spending obsession. mr. speaker, the problem is spending. we got here by spending too much, not by taxing too little. we're going off the cliff of our...
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not really i think we learned that speaker boehner own party we can go back as you said to the debt ceiling debate. the only reason we have cliffs and crises because democrats, particularly in the senate have completely abandoned the legally mandated budgeting process. we have not had a budget in this country for three years. that's why we keep having all these high stakes crises where we are really worried about some deadline that's looming. if we just passed budgets the way we were supposed to and the way the flaw necessitates we wouldn't be having any of these problems, but we have had them year after year. the american people are so weary of this, laura. >> i love the fact, that the "new york times" once again it's like that time of year. look at my watch the "new york times" is going to attack the tea party which they did today. the tea party has a little narrowing influence they are really on the ropes. that kind of thing as if the tea party is in charge of the white house and the senate. i mean you could say the tea party pick bad candidates this time around the idea that the preside
not really i think we learned that speaker boehner own party we can go back as you said to the debt ceiling debate. the only reason we have cliffs and crises because democrats, particularly in the senate have completely abandoned the legally mandated budgeting process. we have not had a budget in this country for three years. that's why we keep having all these high stakes crises where we are really worried about some deadline that's looming. if we just passed budgets the way we were supposed...
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if republicans really did want to have null spending cuts, included in this deal, then speaker john boehner should not have walked away from the 4 trillion-dollar debt deal that he was negotiating with the president in weekend weeks. that had significant spending cuts as well as the tax increases, trace. >> trace: we talk a lot about the taxes, ed, but what about those spending cuts, ed? >> the ones in terms of entitlement reform that's off the table until later next year apparently. in terms of the short-term, those automatic cuts known as sequestration that would hit the pentagon hard, some other domestic programs as well. that's the biggest stumbling block tonight to a deal. lindsey graham was on "fox news sunday" yesterday. he said he spoke to defense secretary leon panetta over the weekend. he had real concerns that these pentagon cuts will be devastating. take a listen. >> he says if we do this it will be shooting the defense department in the head and we'll have to send out 800,000 layoff notices the beginning of the year. he is worried to death that if we don't fix sequestration we
if republicans really did want to have null spending cuts, included in this deal, then speaker john boehner should not have walked away from the 4 trillion-dollar debt deal that he was negotiating with the president in weekend weeks. that had significant spending cuts as well as the tax increases, trace. >> trace: we talk a lot about the taxes, ed, but what about those spending cuts, ed? >> the ones in terms of entitlement reform that's off the table until later next year...
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it appears, for at least the time being, john boehner is on the side line letting something get hashed down in the senate between mitch mcconnell and joe biden right now. let's just say if a deal comes out of the senate that puts this tax increase around half million dollars threshold, say it has satisfactory spending cuts, is there still any chance that type of bill gets enough republican support in the house to get signed into law and get done by january 1? >> well, i wouldn't foreclose on any possibility there. but do remember, the speaker and the house republicans are not sidelined. we actually did our work so many months ago that most people don't remember it. we sent a tax bill over to the senate for them to take up before the august recess. the fact that they refused to work on it, extended all tax rates for another 12 months, while we work on fundamental tax reform. which really is the sensible way to go about doing this if you just stop and think about it. the actual money delivered under the president's proposal is really pretty paltry and here is a chance to actually change
it appears, for at least the time being, john boehner is on the side line letting something get hashed down in the senate between mitch mcconnell and joe biden right now. let's just say if a deal comes out of the senate that puts this tax increase around half million dollars threshold, say it has satisfactory spending cuts, is there still any chance that type of bill gets enough republican support in the house to get signed into law and get done by january 1? >> well, i wouldn't foreclose...
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the president had gone up to $400,000 when house speaker boehner would raise the tax hikes . but the sticking point is enments and spending. >> clayton: the republicans saying that the president and democrats not forth coming enough on entitlements. here's what will unfold in a few short days as we break this down to you. >> put your seat belts on, people. >> clayton: tax rates will hit these numbers and you go up to 120,000 . you will see 31 percent up to 36 percent . in these tax rates as they climb up. >> here's the bottom line. average tax rate of 2,000 to $4000. it is an additional 13,944 . millionaire's status which the president wanted to raise status on will be 34635. big deep in your pockets if woo go off the fiscal cliff. >> it is so crazy . we have the holiday get together. living in new york city . it is so expensive and you are making $250,000. you are middle class here. >> clayton: if you have a family of four and taxes are through the roof and cost of living in these areas and major metropolitan areas in the country that is not middle class. you are hit with se
the president had gone up to $400,000 when house speaker boehner would raise the tax hikes . but the sticking point is enments and spending. >> clayton: the republicans saying that the president and democrats not forth coming enough on entitlements. here's what will unfold in a few short days as we break this down to you. >> put your seat belts on, people. >> clayton: tax rates will hit these numbers and you go up to 120,000 . you will see 31 percent up to 36 percent . in...